Re: Garchomp.

**Latios** · by **Latios** on Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:52 pm

Happy Flower wrote:Also, Garchomp has no counter.

LOL

I've found anything with an ice move to be quite an effective counter, but that's just me. Ice shard ftfw.

I think that brick break's supposed to be a blissey counter of something.

Happy Flower · by Happy Flower on Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:56 pm

Counters need to be able to switch into him and pose an immidiate threat. Garchomp can 1-2HKO everything.

Earthquake is just as powerful as Brick Break against Blissey though...

**Latios** · by **Latios** on Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:11 pm

I see your point, switching into a Garchomp would be problematic =\

I usually carry a few "damage control" pokes on my team for situations like that though, usually equipped with an ice move.

Riku · by Riku on Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:18 pm

Donphan

Survives practically all of Garchomps attacks, bar crits, and can fire off a ice shard at him

Happy Flower · by Happy Flower on Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:25 pm

But Garchomp 2HKO's Donphan and even an Adamant 252 ATK Choice Banded Donphan falls just short of any chance of OHKOing a 4 / 0 / 0 Garchomp.

Sorry I've been spending too much time on Smogon again!

xx

**bennet3** · by **bennet3** on Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:36 pm

well i wouldnt say that my donphan has only once came up short of ohkoing a garchomp with choice band and ice shard but it still beat it cuz it has good def

**sarge51** · by **sarge51** on Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:58 pm

i'm sorry fan but i will never forget the time my garchomp beat you 1-5 by just using outrage.

**Fan1** · by **Fan1** on Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:04 pm

Skarm is the best counter to Chomp, even if it does have Firefang its like a 3HKO. Gliscor can also resist it if its in a straight up one on one with Ice Fang , even if its not and is banded or scarfed using EQ/Stone edge/Crunch then Gliscor can be switched in to counter.

And yeah Sarge that was just outrageous <_<

**sarge51** · by **sarge51** on Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:15 pm

Maybe using the Slack-Curse Hippowdon could work.But then again it's best to stockpile on defences just in case its ice fang misses from Sand Veil.This is a possibility, but its movepool is very limited.

Happy Flower · by Happy Flower on Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:32 pm

What happens to those 'counters':

Donphan takes 53% absolute minimum from CB Adamant Outrage. (2HKO)
Donphan can do 94% absolute maximum to a standard Chomp with Ice Shard.

Skarmory gets 2HKOed by Chomp's Fire Blast.
Skarmory can do nothing back.

Gliscor takes 56% absolute minimum from CB Adamant Outrage. (2HKO)
Garchomp outspeeds and finishes it before it can attack.

Hippowdon has a small chance of avoiding a 2HKO from Outrage.
Hippowdon can't OHKO back with Ice Fang.

Garchomp has no true counter. He's ugly anyway. My Hitmonlee is way cooler. (;

xx