Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

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Re: Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

Post by Cyro on Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:35 pm

waterfall can make them flinch? since when? ive never ehard about that. if it can waterfall gets big thumbs up from me!

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Re: Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

Post by Latios on Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:46 pm

no, it cant

and imo

accuracy 55%, power 45%

so accuracy>power

waterfall ftw

i'm still befuddled by that average stats thing you put up cyro, It dosent really make sense

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Re: Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

Post by Cyro on Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:48 pm

well in the mathematics for damages (view serebii for it), all damage is done in multiplications. so on average, aqua tail will do slightly more total damage than waterfall

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Re: Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

Post by Latios on Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:54 pm

so it's

90 x .9 = 81

and

80 x 1.0 = 80

right?

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Re: Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

Post by Cyro on Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:57 pm

exactly. link to the page is: http://www.serebii.net/games/damage.shtml

i did a bit of mathematics and figured out a way easyer way to calculate damage. do: (Attack or Sp.Attack) / (Defence or Sp.Defence) * (Move Power) * 0.22 * (random number from 0.85-1.00). that should be the damage, roughly. also add in the: (Stab) * (Super Effective) * (Crit (x2))

Also, damage modifications from stat improvement (swords dance, etc..) are:
1: 150%
2: 200%
3: 250%
4: 300%
5: 350%
6: 400%

Also, if enemy has boosted defences...
1: 66%
2: 50%
3: 40%
4: 33%
5: 28%
6: 25%

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Re: Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

Post by Ghost42 on Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:34 am

Latiosmaster47 wrote:no, it cant
Yes, it can.Try it.

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Re: Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

Post by Latios on Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:20 am

bah it was late-- i didnt feel like looking it up

20% thats pretty high... kind of odd that it's never happened for me -__-

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Re: Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

Post by Cyro on Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:41 pm

waterfall is better because of the flinch.....im gonna have to change my gyarados...

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Re: Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

Post by !Cool Kid 94! on Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:45 pm

Ghost42 wrote:I prefer Waterfall as it is more accurate (IMO accuracy > power)
and can make the foe flinch, the extra 5 PP is just a bonus.


I totally agree.

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Re: Aqua Tail or Waterfall?

Post by the lord of the sith on Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:43 pm

as do i. also latios it has happened 4 me(the flinching)

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